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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:32 am 
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Brandon's-Fids wrote:
It saids it doesn't work for ios.


It doesn't work for mobile, you will need a computer. If you don't have one available, one of the members that has one can do it for you and share the results.


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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:33 am 
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You can provide cooked eggs for them but try not to give them too much. Males don't need as much as calcium as hens but it's still a necessary nutrient for bone health.

Make a seperate thread and provide picture of both birds. We will need the face, back, toes, and the top of the head.

Ok ill do it now :) thanks.I would rather buy the egg food they would prefer that.



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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:37 am 
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You can shred the cuttle bone on top of their food if they won't eat it from its original form.


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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:41 am 
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Brandon's-Fids wrote:
It saids it doesn't work for ios.


It doesn't work for mobile, you will need a computer. If you don't have one available, one of the members that has one can do it for you and share the results.

Do you have a computer? I will need somebody else to do it lol the pictures are there.



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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:43 am 
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Yes, I do. But I won't have access to it until tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:44 am 
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Yes, I do. But I won't have access to it until tonight.

I suppose I can wait lol.The pictures are in another thread tell me if I need to add more.



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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:48 pm 
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The chicks will all be pearl since both parents are pearl. Other mutations will depend on the splits. It looks like Loki is cinnamon and Rocko is not. Cinnamon is a sex-linked gene with complicated inheritance rules. She'll give the cinnamon gene to all of her sons but not to her daughters, but you won't get any visual cinnamon chicks unless Rocko is split to it. Isn't Rocko pied or split pied? If he's visual pied he'll give the gene to all the babies and if he's split he'll give it to some of them. But they'll have to get the gene from Loki too to be visual pied.

Cockatiels prefer to feed soft foods to the chicks because it's easier for them to digest. I think your birds are eating a lot of soft food already, but if you think you could make improvements then start working on it now. Pellets count as a soft food because they get mushy when the parent bird eats them and drinks water. If you can find a "high potency" pellet (sometimes called a breeder pellet), it will provide higher levels of all the nutrients.

When my birds are breeding I give them a little bit of cooked egg every day. Egg food is really more for birds that eat a lot of insects in the wild (eggs and bugs are both animal protein so the nutritional values are kind of similar). It's OK for cockatiels to have a little bit of egg in the diet but they're not known to eat a lot of bugs so it's not natural for them to have too much egg. A more natural way to provide protein is with the seeds plus beans combination, and you already give them lentil sprouts which count as a bean.

You can change seeds from a hard food to a soft food by soaking or lightly sprouting them. I have an article about how to do it here: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.com/i ... uting.html You can buy some dry lentils and soak them along with the seeds/grains so it's all part of the same mix. Some beans have to be cooked to get rid of toxins so not all of them are safe with sprouting alone, but the article tells you which ones are OK.

Good-quality whole grain bread is also a good baby food. Nutritionally it's fairly similar to seeds, so the parents need other types of food in the diet to provide the nutrients that you can't get in seeds.



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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:53 pm 
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The lentils I get are already sprouted.So will Loki's sons not be visually cinnamon? Yeah Rocko is pearl pied not cinnamon.What mutation will the daughters be? Is it true certain mutations are not allowed to breed?



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It's not a good idea to breed two visual lutinos together. Some of the rare mutations shouldn't be mixed with some of the common mutations, but that's not a problem for you since you don't have any rarities.

The rules for sex-linked mutations are complicated, and if you want to really understand it I have an article on it here: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.com/i ... inked.html

But the basic rule is that girls only need one cinnamon gene to be visual, but they can only get it from their father. It doesn't pass from mother to daughter. Boys need two cinnamon genes to be visual, one from each parent. A boy that has a cinnamon mother will automatically get the gene from her because there's no other choice. But he has to get the gene from his father too in order to be visual.

Pearl is also a sex-linked mutation and follows the same rules. But a pearl father will give the gene to all of his children and a pearl mother will give the gene to all of her sons, so all the babies will get enough pearl genes to be visual.



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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:07 pm 
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So will the girls be Pearl pied like Rocko? And what will the boys be if they are not visual what will they look like.



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