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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:37 pm 
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She hasn't been kicking them for awhile , so that's good.Oh and now when I'm playing with them and if one gets bad like attacking or biting then I close the cage and ignore them a few seconds then continue.
PS Is Honey Nut Cheerios bad for them? Or is only given as a treat I'm curious because I found this treat/toy DIY on budgieplace.com/ and I would like to try it out but not sure about the cheerios.



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Cheerios are OK once in a while as a treat but they shouldn't be a regular part of the diet. Cheerios are vitamin-fortified for humans which means they have too much zinc and iron for birds, and if they eat too much they can get an overdose of these minerals.



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:20 pm 
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Oh okay, so anyway today Kaylee improved on progress but not being nice.So new progress is that she can step up on the perch I'm holding when I tell her to which involved a millet spray
( Thanks for the advice! :thanks: ) So when she gets on I let her have some then I hold the perch and the treat besides the perch in the cage and say "Down" or "Step Down" After awhile I did it but without a treat for step up she did it but with hesitation and when she gets down then I give her more treat. :applaud: .Next I tried my finger but instead she bit it or ignored it then climb somewhere else easier to get it
( Why does she have to be so smart!Or am I dumb? XP)
So next I got a mitten instead but she was scared , so I wore the mitten and held the millet she didn't care about the glove so I tried the step up but instead she started chewing the mitten instead of trying to get the millet until I put it right in front of her face LOL I need help or just need more time?
I train Kaylee first so Sunshine can learn too but when I try Sunshine , Kaylee is like " No No ME ME It's MINES " Then she starts chasing him :roll:
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Birds are clever at figuring out how to get what they want without obeying us so we have to try to outsmart them lol. When one technique doesn't work we try something different.

If she nips at your finger, move your finger away so she can't bite it again and also move the millet to a place where she can't even see it. Moving the millet away quickly is actually more important than moving the finger; you want to send the message that biting won't help her get the millet, it will make the millet disappear.

Try to arrange it so she can do something that earns a reward without particularly giving her a chance to bite you. Maybe show her your finger at a safe distance then reward her for not lunging at it. If she threatens you the millet disappears. If she doesn't threaten she gets a bite of millet. Then work on gradually getting closer.



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Thanks sounds pretty good! But sadly today's not millet day.. So what's the most amount of millet spray per week?



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There isn't any limit. We use millet as a treat but it's actually a healthy food. Birds need a balanced diet, and if your budgies were eating nothing but millet that wouldn't be good for them. But as long as they're eating a variety of other healthy foods (like vegetables and pellets/nutriberries) you can basically give them millet spray as often as you want to. Budgies are seed eaters in the wild so it's natural for them to have a significant percentage of seed in their diet.



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Oh okay, so I tried your advice yesterday anyways but then Kaylee seems to pay attention to my finger more and bit it but the luckily she bit my nail not the underside so I made the millet "disappear" but she didn't care. I also tried wrapping my finger with something but she kept chewing it instead of going for the millet. With the stick she's fine but not with my finger unless I'm finger-feeding her.



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Keep your finger out of her reach and reward her for not making threats. Then work on gradually moving the finger closer.



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Okay, thanks!



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Oh I found another way today and it's working a bit but don't know if Kaylee knows that her toes were touching my finger yet though.BTW my dad got a new toy and an apple tree branch for them and they enjoy both, but Sunshine didn't try out the branch yet.Bye! It's almost 10:00 here in CA



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